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[quote="nochkin"]BidNow... what a "wonderful" feature. I missed that. Seems like OZtion is on the seller's side, not on the buyer's.. IMHO attracting sellers only is not enough, but that's not for me to decide which business model to choose.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>nochkin</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Right. <br />That's just another not understanding that sniping is actually driving more people and prices. <br />I snipe not just because I want to "steal" auction how some people think, but simply because I may forget about it or don't want to fall in bid shilling process. <br /> <br />At least, most snipers are the only ones who put the real value bids on items. <br />When I sell stuff, I prefer for my auctions to be sniped. In this case I get a fair market value for it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:15 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>nochkin wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">IMHO attracting sellers only is not enough, but that's not for me to decide which business model to choose.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yes, IMHO you are right, buyers like you and I will not be interested, ultimately that means prices will be lower and less will be sold, which is not good for the sellers either. <br /> <br />I think that 'no sale no fee' is a step in the right direction for sellers, but the anti sniping features are a going too far.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>nochkin</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:39 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">BidNow... what a "wonderful" feature. I missed that. <br />Seems like OZtion is on the seller's side, not on the buyer's.. <br />IMHO attracting sellers only is not enough, but that's not for me to decide which business model to choose.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:31 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I've had a look now... There is also this: <br /> <br />BidNow <br />BidNow is an exclusive feature available to OZtion. <br />Sellers have the option to select this feature for auction style selling only. The Auction end time is hidden from bidders and will no longer be displayed to anyone except the seller. <br /> <br />Prevents bidders from knowing when the item ends and waiting to bid in the last few minutes/seconds. Encourages bidders to place a bid earlier because the item may end at anytime. <br /> <br /> <br />... That one makes sniping impossible, and the Auto-1-Min mentioned by nochkin makes sniping relatively ineffective. <br /> <br />So, unfortunately, I don't think its worth considering any further as a potential extension for sniping services.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Cupid</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:49 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">nochkin, <br /> <br /> I haven't looked at that site... I presume a buyer would not be able to tell if that feature was active for any particular auction?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>nochkin</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:37 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">OZtion has a feature (could be enabled or disabled) which prevents sniping idea. <br /> <br />Auto-1-Min: <br />Auction end time is extended for 1 minute if a bid is placed in the last 60 seconds. <br />Allows the bidder who is willing to pay the most win. <br /> <br />If many auctions will have it, then sniping will be kinda useless.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Di in Australia</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:43 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: MANY AUSSIE SELLERS LEAVING EBAY GOING TO OZTION</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hi there, I notice that you have Oztion listed as one of your Beta Testing Auction Sites for Australia. <br /> <br />Can you give me some indication of when you hope to have this up & running so I can tell the masses who are leaving ebay in their 1,000's .... they are forcing us to use Pay-it-again-Pal and preventing us sellers from accepting bank deposits/checks/money orders as payments so it will be PAYPAL ONLY. <br /> <br />The peasants are revolting & leaving for Oztion. If you need a "test bidder" for the Oztion site I would be happy to help out. <br /> <br />Cheers Di</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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