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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: offset time Reply with quote

Should I set different offset times in main and mirror site?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only if you prefer seller not to see a double bid in the history list. It doesn't matter really.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I won my first auction using Gixen. It worked marvelously. Thank you very much! I set the offset time for main server at 8 sec. and mirror server at 6 sec. And the winning bid was placed by mirror server. Should this be a good combination, meaning setting different offset times for the main and the mirror?

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On average with those settings you would expect the Main server to win more auctions than the Mirror since it is scheduled to bid first.

There really isn't any particular combination of settings for the Offsets that are going to be more successful than any other, on average. That is why they are options for you to choose as you may perceive that for the particular auctions you are interested in there is a difference.

Personally I prefer the slightly larger offset, as you have, at 8 seconds because I know that there are often other snipers interested in the same auctions as me... and it helps me to have my bid registered before theirs so that the bid increment rule works in my favour.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:12 am    Post subject: OFFSET time usage is NOT clear Reply with quote

I have read all the comments on setting the OFFSET and I just don't understand.

The idea is to be the LAST bidder before the Auction ends - isn't it? Why would anyone want to set the OFFSET to a larger number?

Cupid said (Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:51): "Personally I prefer the slightly larger offset, as you have, at 8 seconds because........." The minimum OFFSET offered by Gixen is 3 Sec. So why not use 3 Sec. on both Servers to give the best chance of being the "LAST" bidder??

I have seen "manual" bids changed within 6 or 8 seconds by others. (Before Gixen I managed to do this with a Keyboard Macro Program)

Please explain.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, the idea is not to be the last it is to have the highest accepted bid that is later than others can react to, which is not the same thing.

There are cases where your bid, though higher than anyone else's is not accepted by eBay because it does not meet the bid increment rule... this is more likely to happen when your bid is later... and if you are competing with other automated snipers, which I often am, then it is a more frequent occurrence.

Manual reactions within 6 seconds where possible can only result from someone waiting till the end of the auction before registering what they already know to be their maximum bid... you can't make a valued judgement about the value of the auction, decide that you were wrong about the value in the first place, decide that you are prepared to bid more as a result and then register that bid with eBay in less than 6 seconds... Anyone that claims they can is deluding themselves and wasting their own valuable time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject: OFFSET time usage is NOT clear Reply with quote

Thanks for responding, Cupid:

I understand what you said.

So let me ask:

If Gixen, while using just one Server in this example, is set to 6 seconds and another Sniper is set to 3 seconds, who will win the auction?
(Assume both bidders have meet the bid increment rule)

Please advise.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you haven't specified the scenario enough for me to state definitively, so I will have to make some further assumptions, so that I can:

1> Both automated snipers are set with the same maximum bid value.

2> The different automated snipers are bidding for different eBay accounts so they are truly bidding against each other (actually this doesn't affect my answer but may affect the final price the item is sold for).

3> There are no other bids placed in the last 6 seconds, either by automated or manual snipers.

In that case the bid placed by Gixen will win at the maximum value specified by the user (which is the same as the later bid as per assumption 1). This is because it was placed first and the rule on eBay is that if two bids of the same amount are placed on eBay by different bidders the first is the winner.

If you don't like my further assumptions give me a different scenario and my answer might be different.

What I can definitively say is that a bid that meets the increment rule and is higher than any other accepted bid will always win the auction on eBay no matter when any of the accepted bids are placed and a bid that is rejected by eBay will never win an auction.
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